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مشاهدة النسخة كاملة : jesus is not God in the bible



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محبة الرحمن
2010-07-13, 11:24 PM
Now lets see how many sons of God we have

Luke 3-New Living Translation
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%203&version=NLT
38 Adam was the son of God.

David is the son of God in psalms & 2 Samuel & 1 Chronicles 17
Psalm 2 -New International Version
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+2&version=NIV
7 I will proclaim the decree of the LORD :
He said to me, "You are my Son;
today I have become your Father.



Samuel 2 : 7 -New International Version
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Samuel+7&version=NIV

4 That night the word of the LORD came to Nathan, saying:
5 "Go and tell my servant David, 'This is what the LORD says: Are you the one to build me a house to dwell in? 6 I have not dwelt in a house from the day I brought the Israelites up out of Egypt to this day. I have been moving from place to place with a tent as my dwelling. 7 Wherever I have moved with all the Israelites, did I ever say to any of their rulers whom I commanded to shepherd my people Israel, "Why have you not built me a house of cedar?" '
8 "Now then, tell my servant David, 'This is what the LORD Almighty says: I took you from the pasture and from following the flock to be ruler over my people Israel. 9 I have been with you wherever you have gone, and I have cut off all your enemies from before you. Now I will make your name great, like the names of the greatest men of the earth. 10 And I will provide a place for my people Israel and will plant them so that they can have a home of their own and no longer be disturbed. Wicked people will not oppress them anymore, as they did at the beginning 11 and have done ever since the time I appointed leaders [a] over my people Israel. I will also give you rest from all your enemies.
" 'The LORD declares to you that the LORD himself will establish a house for you: 12 When your days are over and you rest with your fathers, I will raise up your offspring to succeed you, who will come from your own body, and I will establish his kingdom. 13 He is the one who will build a house for my Name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. 14 I will be his father, and he will be my son. When he does wrong, I will punish him with the rod of men, with floggings inflicted by men. 15 But my love will never be taken away from him, as I took it away from Saul, whom I removed from before you. 16 Your house and your kingdom will endure forever before me [b] ; your throne will be established forever.' "

Chronicles 1 : 17 -New International Version
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Chronicles+17&version=NIV
13 I will be his father, and he will be my son. I will never take my love away from him, as I took it away from your predecessor. 14 I will set him over my house and my kingdom forever; his throne will be established forever.' "


to be continued

محبة الرحمن
2010-07-14, 03:13 AM
Solomon is the son of God

Chronicles 1 : 22 - New International Version
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Chronicles%2022&version=NIV
9 But you will have a son who will be a man of peace and rest, and I will give him rest from all his enemies on every side. His name will be Solomon, and I will grant Israel peace and quiet during his reign. 10 He is the one who will build a house for my Name. He will be my son, and I will be his father. And I will establish the throne of his kingdom over Israel forever.'

Israel is the firstborn son of God
Exodus 4 -New International Version
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+4&version=NIV
22 Then say to Pharaoh, 'This is what the LORD says: Israel is my firstborn son,


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ضحكة مؤمنة
2010-07-14, 04:56 AM
متابعاااااااااااكى

بس السؤال اللىاتسال من الاخ محمد زيدان هتجاوبى عليه امتا لانى برضه عاوزة اشوف التعليق على الكلام اللى جابه

وبجد ربنا يبارك فيكى

محبة الرحمن
2010-07-14, 05:05 AM
Everyone who follows the orders of God is a son of God

Genesis 6 -New International Version
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+6&version=NIV
2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose.

Psalm 29 -New American Standard Bible
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%2029&version=NASB
1 Ascribe to the LORD, O sons of the mighty,

Psalm 89-King James Version

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%2089&version=KJV
6For who in the heaven can be compared unto the LORD? who among the sons of the mighty can be likened unto the LORD?

Hosea 1 -New International Version

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hosea+1&version=NIV
10 "Yet the Israelites will be like the sand on the seashore, which cannot be measured or counted. In the place where it was said to them, 'You are not my people,' they will be called 'sons of the living God.'


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محبة الرحمن
2010-07-14, 12:04 PM
Matthew 5 -New International Version

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5&version=NIV
9Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called sons of God.


Luke 20 - English Standard Version

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%2020&version=ESV
36for they cannot die anymore, because they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.

John 11 -New International Version
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2011&version=NIV
52and not only for that nation but also for the scattered children of God, to bring them together and make them one.

Romans 9 - New International Version
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+9&version=NIV
26and,
"It will happen that in the very place where it was said to them,
'You are not my people,'
they will be called 'sons of the living God.'

Romans 8-New International Version

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%208&version=NIV
19The creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of God to be revealed.

to be continued

محبة الرحمن
2010-07-14, 01:44 PM
بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم


متابعاااااااااااكى

بس السؤال اللىاتسال من الاخ محمد زيدان هتجاوبى عليه امتا لانى برضه عاوزة اشوف التعليق على الكلام اللى جابه

وبجد ربنا يبارك فيكى

جزاك الله خيراً أختي في الله على المتابعة و سأجيب بإذن الله على أسئلة الأخ محمد زيدان رغم اني طلبت و وضحت سابقاً بعدم رغبتي في تشتيت تسلسل الموضوع حتى تكون منه الفائدة و لأن كل النصوص التي يستدل بها على ألوهية المسيح سيتم الرد عليها في الموضوع و لكني سأجيب بسبب اصراركم و لكن أرجو عدم تشتيت الموضوع مرة آخرى و جزاكم الله خيراً

ذو الفقار
2010-07-14, 01:56 PM
المهم أن نجد عقول تعي :22-61:

محبة الرحمن
2010-07-14, 02:35 PM
أختي ضحكة مؤمنة سأضع فقط الفقرات التابعة لمعنى كلمة ابن الله في القرآن و الإسلام لارتباطها بالفقرة السابقة ثم أجيب بعون الله تعالى


How did Quran solve this problem

Surah 21. The Prophets
26. And they say: "((Allah)) Most Gracious has begotten offspring." Glory to Him! they are (but) servants raised to honour.
27. They speak not before He speaks, and they act (in all things) by His Command.
28. He knows what is before them, and what is behind them, and they offer no intercession except for those who are acceptable, and they stand in awe and reverence of His (Glory).
29. If any of them should say, "I am a god besides Him", such a one We should reward with Hell: thus do We reward those who do wrong.

And as a Muslims we believe in the testimony of Christ peace be upon him where he witnessed to his Lord for being the only true God and that he is a messenger of God

John 17 -New International Version

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2017&version=NIV
3Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

to be continued

محبة الرحمن
2010-07-14, 02:42 PM
المهم أن نجد عقول تعي :22-61:

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

نسأل الله تعالى ذلك
بارك الله فيك أستاذنا ذو الفقار

محبة الرحمن
2010-07-14, 02:52 PM
God said in the Holy Quran

Surah 2
285. The Messenger believeth in what hath been revealed to him from his Lord, as do the men of faith. Each one (of them) believeth in Allah, His angels, His books, and His apostles. "We make no distinction (they say) between one and another of His apostles." And they say: "We hear, and we obey: (We seek) Thy forgiveness, our Lord, and to Thee is the end of all journeys."


Jesus said
John 5 - New International Version
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%205&version=NIV
41"I do not accept praise from men, 42but I know you. I know that you do not have the love of God in your hearts. 43I have come in my Father's name, and you do not accept me; but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him. 44How can you believe if you accept praise from one another, yet make no effort to obtain the praise that comes from the only God ?

Matthew 15 -New International Version

9They worship me in vain;
their teachings are but rules taught by men.'"

Mark 7 -New International Version
7They worship me in vain;
their teachings are but rules taught by men

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